Ronald Simmons 1987

In this episode, we take a closer look at the disturbing case of Ronald Gene Simmons, a former U.S. Air Force sergeant whose crimes in Arkansas in 1987 became one of the most notorious family murder cases in American history. We’ll explore Simmons’ background, the events leading up to the killings, the investigation that followed, and the courtroom proceedings that brought the case into national attention.

We’ll also examine the family dynamics and warning signs surrounding the case, while keeping the focus on the victims and the broader questions the tragedy raises about abuse, control, and violence behind closed doors.

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Hello, listeners. Welcome to Case by Case. This is a true crime podcast for educational purposes only. Nothing that I say is intended to be disrespectful or offensive to anyone. I research and rant. If that sounds good to you, let's carry on. Before we begin, I would like to add a disclaimer. We will be mentioning child abuse to include sexual assault and domestic violence. If that is something you would like to skip, then please do so. Thank you. Episode three, the case Ronald Jean Simmons. This case takes us to Russellville, Arkansas. This is a massacre that began that begins December 22nd and ends December 28th, 1987. Our victim list is pretty extensive, so bear with me. Wife Rebecca, age 46, son Ronald Jr. 26, daughter Sheila McNulty 24, son William II, 22, daughter Loretta 17, son Eddie 14, daughter Marianne 11, daughter Rebecca 8, daughter and granddaughter Sylvia 6, granddaughter Barbara 3, daughter-in-law Renata 21, and I apologize if I am saying that first name incorrectly, son-in-law Dennis McNulty, 33, grandson William III, they also, or aka Trey, 20 months, grandson Michael McNulty, 21 months. Um, and I'm sorry, grandson Trey was 20 months. I don't know if I said that correctly. And then there are two non-family members uh that were also killed, Kathy Kendrick, 24, and JD Chaffin Chaffin, 33. And I apologize if I'm saying his last name incorrectly. Ronald Jean Simmons was born July 15th, 1940, in Chicago, Illinois. His parents were Loretta and William Simmons. Ronald's dad passed away when uh Ronald was two, and his mother remarried. She obviously loved men with the name William because her second husband was William Griffin. Griffin was in the Army Corps of Engineers, which I'm assuming that at one point the army was branched off into different cores of things, uh, and now we're just the army. That was just a small little tidbit that I think. I don't know. Uh, so over the next decade, the filling the family would relocate uh to different places in central Arkansas. September 1957, Ronald dropped out of high school and joined the Navy. While stationed at Bremerton Naval Base in Washington, he met, and I am so sorry that I am getting ready to butcher this lady's name, but I did look up how to pronounce it, and I still feel like I'm getting ready to do a very bad job. So he met his wife, uh Burseva Rebecca Ulabari or Ulavari. Uh, looking up her last name, it says that the B can either make a V sound or it can be a B sound. So B as in beta or V as in Violet. I'm not sure. But throughout the telling of the case, I will refer to her as Becky because that's what they refer to her as. They went on to marry in New Mexico on July 9th of 1960. Ronald is very controlling of Becky. Uh, he had told her she needs to stop wearing makeup. She could not wear her hair down, it had to be tied back into a ponytail. Uh, anything to do with the outside dealings of the house. So, grocery shopping, paying the bills, anything again, outside the home, he did, and Becky could not do. Becky could not have a driver's license, um, and she uh could not use a phone. So that way, again, she there was no reason for Becky to be outside the house, according to Ronald. Uh, in interviews with Becky's siblings, there was a point in time where Ronald was kind, nice, sweet, a loving guy. And then just slowly he became this complete asshole. Which, of course, when you're thinking of all of the things, um, or I guess all of the criteria for an abuser, Ronald pretty much checks all of the boxes. He just slowly isolated Becky from her family. Uh, to include um, when it came to her trying to do letters, he would keep the stamps from her so that way she couldn't even write as many letters as she wanted to write. It was pretty, pretty bad. 1963, Ronald left the Navy, and then two years later, he enlisted into the Air Force, which he would retire from the Air Force in 1979 as Master Sergeant. Um, and during his military stint, Ronald was very uh well decorated. He was very accomplished, he collected so many accolades, uh, which is very strange because of the way that his household was run and the way his personal life was, it doesn't really match up to his professional life at all. And you will hear about that pretty soon. So, over the eight, over an 18-year span, Ronald and Becky had 17 children. They would have three boys and four girls. So I don't know if you remember the age range, but their oldest was 26 and their youngest was eight. So again, they had a pretty big uh range in their ages. In 1981, this is where things just kind of show, like again, his personal life compared to his professional life. So in 1981, Ronald was would go under investigation by the Cloud Croft New Mexico DHS, which is the Department of Human Services, because it was alleged that Ronald fathered a child with his eldest daughter, Sheila. Sheila would be 17 when she would have their daughter, Sylvia. Now, at first, again, it was just kind of speculation and rumors because Sheila would was pregnant at 17, and her friends and her counselors would be like the way that Ronald kind of ran his family, there's really no way Sheila would have had a boyfriend, like at all. Ronald was just too obsessed with Sheila, again, according to her friends, for it to be where Sheila could have been pregnant by anybody else. You know, the friends was just like Ronald was really creepy. Uh, a lot of the things that he would do and say to Sheila were not things that fathers would say to their daughters. Um, and you even had rumors, not rumors, I'm sorry, neighbors who would say that they felt like the way that Ronald and Sheila's relationship was was not a father-daughter dynamic. It was more of a boyfriend-girlfriend dynamic. And so all of these rumors kind of led to the fact that, of course, when Sheila became pregnant, a lot of people just kind of speculated that it had to be, it had to be Ronald. And Sheila would go on to confirm this in a personal interview with the caseworker. And so she would go ahead and tell the caseworker that the first time that there was a sexual or encounter of a sexual abuse was in July of 1980. So Sheila and her father, Ronald, they were going to California from New Mexico for a coin show. And Sheila said coins weren't even her thing. Like she wasn't like, she didn't fuck with no coins. And Ronald did. And so what she was trying to do was just keep something that bonded them. Uh, and just going off of a on a tangent a little bit here. I know that as a teenager, we kind of get stuck in our own little lives, especially when it comes to our friends. We kind of just ignore our family. And so our parents are like, well, these are our last little years with our teenagers before they go off into adulthood. And so sometimes we try to find that little thing that kind of bonds us. Right now, I have a teenage daughter, and I try to find things that bond us. And fortunately for me, me and my daughter, we both love horror. And so we will watch all types of scary things all day long. Um, and we both love puzzles. So, you know, we have our things that bond us. And um, so I think Sheila was just like, okay, I'm going to give my dad this thing because I know that at some point in time I'll be gone. And I just want us to have these very last memories uh before I go away. Unfortunately, Ronald in his perversion just took he took that love and care and kindness from Sheila in the worst way and and made it something gross because he's disgusting. So July 1980, they're staying at a hotel, and that is going to be the first encounter of sexual abuse. And so then there's gonna go on to be two more encounters September of 1980. Sheila goes on to reveal um to Ronald, March 1981, that she is pregnant. I do not have any type of account of how Ronald handled that information, but Sheila does go on to have, like I said, her daughter Sylvia, June 17th, 1981. And this is where I get angry because the system failed the entire family. Everybody is failed in this moment. Because if you have Sheila who says, Yes, my father sexually abused me, resulting in me giving birth at 17 years old. Ronald should have been arrested. He like off arrested. Um, but that's not what happened at all. So they tell Ronald he has to do five weeks of like a family counseling or some type of counseling. He has to do five weeks of that. So he starts his counseling, but then his lawyer tells him, hey, anything you confess to the caseworker during these counselings can be used against you in your criminal trial because he was going to have a trial against him for incest. And so Ronald says, Well, shit, I'm not about to sit here and tell these people or give these people rope to hang me. That's ridiculous. And so he stops going to the counseling. So now they're like, okay, well, now your criminal trial is going to proceed because you stopped the counseling. And so again, Ronald is not in jail. So this is where this uh miscommunication situation occurs, where social services says that they sent a request for the ADA. The ADA is the assistant district attorney. They say that they attempted to gain custody of the four daughters. So that way, of course, they're not in the home with Ronald, the abuser, because he's still at home because he's not in jail. And so the ADA says, Oh, I never received that request. So somehow, either social is not social. No, I'm saying that right. Either social services lied and never put that request in, or the ADA lied and they did receive that request and never did anything with it. Somehow, somebody is not telling the truth. So the girls remained in the house with the abuser. Okay. The court, the prosecutors or the state, however that situation's playing out, they then tell Sheila, hey, you have to testify. Sheila says, I don't want to testify against my father. They say, you don't have a choice, you have to. And Sheila again says, I do have a choice, and I'm not going to. So they subpoena Sheila. Sheila says, I don't care that you subpoenaed me, I'm still not going to testify against my father. They say, well, if you don't abide by the subpoena, we're going to hold you in contempt of court. And in my mind, I'm thinking, ain't no damn way you sitting here talking about holding a 17-year-old in contempt of court when her father is sitting his bum ass on the couch at home, free and lovely, when he's the one who sexually abused her. But you're sitting here trying to throw the book at her. That's that's the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life. So to be held in contempt of court, there's a few things that they can do. They can put you in jail, and usually you're in jail for like maybe a few hours or days. You're not in there for too long. Or they can fine you. And Sheila is 17. Of course, no 17-year-old wants to sit in jail. And at 17, I'm also not trying to pay you a fine. So Sheila says, All right, cool, I'll testify against my father. And so she does this. Uh on August 11th, 1982, two months after Sheila gives birth to Sylvia, they finally have an arrest warrant for Ronald. So they are heading to the Simmons residence to arrest Ronald. I'm gonna give y'all a quick moment. Tell me what y'all think that they found at the Simmons home when they arrived. I'm gonna tell y'all nothing. They found nothing. Why did they find nothing? Because they kept Dude out of jail. So that meant that he had time to uproot his family and go elsewhere. And that's exactly what he did. Because any smart person who's on the run or who's who knows that they're getting ready to go to jail, but can still leave would do so. I'm not going to let you take me to jail. That's crazy. But what's even crazier is he sexually abused his daughter, and y'all have him go into jail for incest. However, he was only facing up to nine years. I will stand on the highest mountain ten toes down and say that children in America are super unprotected, the most unprotected demographic in America. Because what do you mean that he can sexually abuse this girl and only get nine years? Are you what are we talking about? It doesn't make any sense to me. And one day I am going to literally tell people how the criminal system fails children at every turn. It bothers my heart. But anyway, let's stick with what we're let's stick with the situation at hand. So he's gone, and they're like, oh hell, what happened? So they get an anonymous tip saying that Ronald took his family, possibly to Little Rock, Arkansas. So New Mexico calls Arkansas and they're like, hey, we have word that there's a guy named Ronald Jeanson that might be in Little Rock. We need y'all to detain him because we need him to come back to New Mexico to face his charges. At this point, we're labeling him a fugitive. And Arkansas goes, what does that have to do with us? He's a fugitive to y'all. He hasn't committed any crimes here in Arkansas. So one, we don't know who Ronald Gene Simmons is. Two, we don't have a reason to arrest Ronald Gene Simmons. And three, that sounds like a personal problem. So what y'all calling us for it? So New Mexico again says, hey, we understand all of that, but we're just asking for your help for this man to see his day in court because he, you know, committed some vow, some vowel offenses. So we just need y'all help. And Arkansas goes, that ain't got nothing to do with us. On top of that, not having nothing to do with us, y'all have to go through the proper channels in order for us to even be able to do anything for you. So New Mexico goes, okay, so what's the proper channels? And Arkansas goes, y'all expect us to just do everything for y'all right now. Figure out the proper channels. Y'all figure it out. Why do y'all like, y'all just want us to do all this for y'all? We not, we got better things to do. We have criminals in Arkansas that we need to find. Why do y'all think we getting ready to do this for y'all? Figure it out. Figure it out and get off my phone. So New Mexico goes, well, the only thing we would be able to do is if he actually asks for government assistance. Something that would be a federal thing to where we would be able to see where he is. And Arkansas goes, fine, didn't do that, but get off of my phone. And Arkansas hangs up on New Mexico. So a year later, New Mexico just drops all charges. Now, I will say I did read somewhere that the family asked for New Mexico to drop the charges, but it's not, it's not something that was able to be substantiated, so I don't know. But regardless of which, New Mexico drops all the charges. Now, Ronald is still moving his family around Arkansas because he believes that he is a fugitive. Ronald never knew that. One, Arkansas was never looking for you. Arkansas did not fucking care. Also, New Mexico is no longer looking for you because New Mexico could never actually see where the hell you were in Arkansas. But he doesn't know this because, again, he's a pervert. He knows he did something wrong. But he's nasty as shit. So he he's doing what he's doing. So they're moving all around Arkansas until they finally come up to uh Pope County, and they landed on 13-acre tracked land, and they start calling it Mockingbird Hill, which I looked it up and then I was like, why is it known as Mockingbird Hill? And I saw something that said that he, Ronald, named it Mockingbird Hill himself, but I don't really know because I didn't care to look into it any further. Because who the fuck cares? He's stupid. So they have two older mobile homes that are joined together to create one home. It's a five-bedroom, two-bath, which is not bad, right? It's not a bad home to have, excuse me, because at this point, you have certain kids who aren't even living at the house anymore. So when you think of a five-bedroom for how many people are living at a house, it's really not that bad. So this could have been a beautiful home. It could have been cozy, it could have been loving, it could have been a great place for you know some parents to raise their children, for their children to bring their grandchildren. It could have just been a perfect little home. But nope, Ronald lives there. Ronald lives there, and Ronald is the devil's cousin. And so things don't go that way for the Simmons family. And you know what? People even said that it was like he had chickens, and you know, there was animals, and so I'm just sitting here thinking this could have really been a lovely place to be, but Ronald is just the worst of the worst, so of course it has to be shit, and it's so sad, it is so sad. So Ronald has uh privacy fence because he knows that he's getting ready to do horrible things and that he's again paranoid, that he's you know a fugitive, so everything has to have privacy. So he has these ugly privacy. Privacy fence is just everywhere. There's reports that it's like some part certain parts of the fence is like up to 10 feet tall. And um, there's other reports and speculations that the kids had to build the fence because, of course, free labor, because Ronald again is just the biggest piece of shit. I cannot stand this guy. Uh, he punished the children um by physically making them do like these tedious tasks, uh digging pits. Um, he they would have to make walls out of building with uh what's it called? They would have to do like the mud and build up with rocks um and carry the rocks and buckets. That would be like a punishment. And the the driveway was really long, so uh, he was just the fucking worst. Uh all of the the control that he had from Becky would go on to the children, especially now at this point in life, because again, he thought he was a fugitive. So no phones. Um, although the house did have electricity and there was a phone in the house, he would just keep it unplugged. Um, the house did have plumbing, but uh, I guess there was just like a problem with the plumbing, and he just never would never fix it. So they had to use outhouses. Um, they didn't have AC or heat, so they just had to deal with whatever, you know, the the weather was and whatever their circumstances were. He just made everything extra difficult for no fucking reason. Just no, no reason. Uh, he would kind of keep odd jobs again because he thought he was a fucking fugitive. When you weren't, nobody is looking for you, although you should be in fucking jail. Nobody is looking for you. Um, so yeah, he's just stupid. And then the only reprieve that the children got is when they went to school. And the teachers were like, these children were fucking brilliant. They were so smart, but they were shy and reserved because their stupid dad, he was verbally abusive to all of them. He just kept all of these emotions. He would talk down to them. And there were there was one account where he was physically abusive to Becky in front of the children, and then of course, Sheila with her sexual abuse. Um, there was speculation that uh I'm sorry, I just lost my train of thought. That's so crazy. But there was speculation that he uh fathered another child with Becky, but that child was aborted. But again, that's speculation. Um, and so some people did think that he was sexually abusing uh Loretta, which she was the second oldest daughter, um, because Loretta hated her dad. She hated her dad, and she would tell the few friends that she did have how much she hated her dad. She would call him names and all types of things, and it seemed like it was reciprocated. He also hated Loretta. Um, but Loretta was just a rebel. Like she would go against her dad's wishes, and she just, like I said, she would talk back to him, she would talk down to him. Um, her friends was just like, she would call him all types of names. She hated her fucking dad. And honestly, same girl, same. Your dad's your dad's the worst. Um, Becky did stop uh sleeping in the same bedroom with him after the the incest was known. So Ronald had his own room and he would often lock himself in the room and separate himself away from the family. But with him being separate from the family, the fact that he still had as much of a hold on them that he had shows the mental breakdown that he had on them. Because you would think, all right, you go in your room and you lock yourself in a room, I'm gonna leave the house. You know what I mean? I'm gonna just back up and go. Because you in the room, I don't have any, you don't have a hold on anything. But obviously, he had a mental hold on everybody for the fact that they just would not leave him. Um, but that's just kind of one of those things where um we just never know how that holds or how that affects a person. Because, well, I know I've fortunately never been in that situation, so I can't really speak to why Becky never packed up her kids and left. But you know, we are where we are. Um, however, as the kids got older, um, Billy, who was the second oldest son, uh, he really, really would speak to his mom and tell her, like, you have to leave. You do not have to be there. Please leave. And I think as he kind of kept putting it into Becky's mind that she did not have to be there, Becky eventually was just like, You're right, I don't have to be there. It was also reported that Becky would often call Ronald fat, though. So I think Becky also just didn't respect Ronald at all. But again, she just wouldn't leave, which sometimes I think there's just a complacency that we kind of just fall into. Um, but it is what it is. So eventually she was just like, yes, I'm gonna go. Um, and I think that within that next year, so it would have been 1988, I believe Becky was going to leave. Um, however, she had wrote her siblings and she was super excited about the Christmas get-together that the family often had. So putting the excitement together, putting together that she was getting ready to leave, Becky wanted to have this final Christmas tradition. And then she was going to, you know, go her her separate way from Ronald. Unfortunately, Becky wouldn't even live to see Christmas. She wouldn't live to have that final, that final moment that she that she so wanted. And it sucks because, you know, if she just would have would have left at that time where her where she was like, okay, it's time for me to go. If she would have left at that moment, then things could have been different. But um, unfortunately, Becky just wanted her family to have that one last, that one last hurrah. So um now we're gonna go into the murders, and um, I just want to warn you that we will be talking about the murders of small children. Um, so the morning of December 22nd, 1987, Ronald would shoot Becky and Ronald Jr. with a 22 caliber pistol, and he strangled his three-year-old granddaughter, Barbara. I will say that at this time, Ronald Jr. and his daughter Barbara were temporarily living with his parents. Um, he was going through a situation with his wife, Barbara's mom, and uh they were going to get back together to sometime within the new year, uh, but at the moment, they were just kind of separated from one another. So later that day, December 22nd, 1987, um, it was time for school to be released. And so their school-age children were actually starting their holiday break. And so you had Rebecca, Marianne, Eddie, and Loretta come home, and they were all strangled and drowned. Um, Loretta, however, had defensive wounds, and she, outside of just being strangled and drowned, she was actually beaten up uh because, again, she put up a fight. She, again, she hated her dad. So, of course, she was going to fight back. So, four days later, and this was December 26, 1987, which would have been their annual Christmas visit. So, this was the thing that Becky was so looking forward to. This is the event that she had wrote her brothers and sisters about that she was super excited for. Um, so in order for Ronald to not have to worry about so many people at one time, he killed upon arrival. So the first to arrive was his son Billy, the one who convinced his mom to leave, and his wife Renata with their um son Trey. So he shot Billy and Renata and he strangled Trey. And then Sheila and her husband Dennis were the next to arrive, and he shot Sheila and Dennis, and then strangled Sylvia and Michael. The bodies from the 22nd, he buried those in the backyard. And then the bodies from the 26th, they stayed in the home. Um, on the 26th, after shooting the rest of his family members, so now his family members' death told at 14. He then decided to go to the bar and have some drinks because, of course, what else would you do after completing the deaths of 14 of your family members? After the bar, he comes home to have more of a drink and watch television with the seven bodies just in the house with him. He decided to just watch TV. What? And it's also or it should also be noted that at some point in time he goes and picks up gifts that were like on hold at different stores. And I don't know what he did with the I guess he just put them under the Christmas tree. I don't know what he did, but he he went and did that because that's a fucking normal thing to do. Um, I don't know. He's irritating. He's so fucking irritating. So December 28th, and the the the time, like you're just days, there's days in between. What are you doing with the days in between? The patties are just there, and you're just what having normal making breakfast, drinking coffee. What are you doing with the days in between? What is okay? So December 28th, um, he goes to Peel and Eddie Law Firm, and that's where he shoots Kathy. Kathy, the shooting is not random. Kathy is a previous coworker where they worked together at the Woodland Motor Freight. He used to make sexual advances at Kathy, and she would reject him every single time. And um, he was pretty obsessed with Kathy, and you would have to be. You would have to be because if y'all used to work together and y'all no longer work together, and then you go to her current place of employment and you shoot her, how do you know where Kathy works? So obviously, you're a stalker, which adds to adds to this this level of, and I don't even want to call you crazy because then I kind of feel like it gives you like some type of mental mental health kind of excuse, which no, because that's not the kind of crazy that I'm directing this toward. I'm not saying you have mental health issues. I'm calling you crazy because it's just like you're stupid. You're you're stupid crazy. Like you're just out of pocket crazy. After the shooting at Peel and Eddie Law Firm, he heads to Taylor Oil Company, where he shoots the owner who is Rusty. Fortunately, Rusty survives his shots or his injuries. Um, but he also shoots Jim, who does not survive. Um, the workers from the Taylor Oil Company calls the police, and of course they're like, yo, there's this random fucking dude shooting over here. Uh so now police are alerted to the fact that there's a madman shooting folk. He then heads to Sinclair Minimart, where he shoots um two other employees or shoots two employees at the Minnie Mart. And fortunately, both of those employees survive. His final stop is Woodland Motor Freight, which again, he used to work there. And he Shoyt Shoyt. Oh my gosh. He shoots Joyce. Now, Joyce is an old supervisor, and Joyce will survive her injuries, which she then tells people, or she then says um, that the only real run-in she's ever had with Ronald was that they once argued over his pay. And that was like the only thing that she's really had with him. So after he shoots Joyce, he tells the secretary to go ahead and call the police, right? So he's like, all right, go ahead and call the police. And then he tells the secretary, I've come to do what I wanted to do. It's all over now. I've gotten everybody who wanted to hurt me. And then that's so that's quote unquote. Um, and so he gets detained, and then while he's detained, the police go ahead and they show up at his house. Because, of course, if you're shooting people, then we need to go alert your family to the fact that you're just out here shooting people um because obviously they don't know, or we're getting ready to go into a complete shit show at your house because you might have done something horrible to the people in your home. And we all know that, of course, it is the latter. So he is sent to Arkansas State Hospital um in Little Rock to have a competency evaluation because they're thinking obviously something is wrong with you because we walked into your home to 14 bed bodies, and you've gone on a student spree. So something has to be wrong with you. But of course, they find that nothing is wrong with him. Um, he's just lost it for no reason whatsoever. Um, we will get into some theories here later on, though. Um, so he has two trials. So he'll have one trial for um Kathy and Jim, and then he'll have a separate trial for his family. For Kathy and Jim, he is sentenced to death plus 147 years. And then for the sentence for his family members, he's sentenced to 14 counts of capital murder. So this is the way that this is supposed to go, according to his sentences. So for the 14 death sentences, he is sentenced consecutively. Consecutively means one after the other or back to back. Um, so of course, if you're sentenced to death, it's death, period. But of course, like I kind of feel like sometimes we like to exaggerate, just like overkill a little bit on these sentences just for the sake of saying it, because like death in 147 years. Once we kill him, what are we gonna do? Bury him under the jail so that way he can serve his 147 years. No, we're not going to do that. As far as the death, you know, the 14 consecutive life sentences, what are we gonna do? Bring him back and then kill him again. No, we're not going to do that. We're also not going to letfully inject him and then take the needle out and then do it again. No, you know what I mean? So, like, sentence him to death and then be done. We do too much. Anywho, on June 25th, 1990, he was executed, which is relatively quickly because again, he was um arrested in '87 and um he was killed in '90. So that's that's really quick. Sometimes some people sit on death row for years on years on years. Um, so for him to only be three years is pretty quick. Um, but I guess also he there was no reason for them to not kill him. It's not like he was ever gonna be like exonerated or anything. So there's that. Um, his defense attorney actually said something, and I wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly feel that what he said was true. He said, and I quote, there is more than one person to blame. If he were successfully arrested back in 1981, it's likely none of the murders would have happened. Although he was only gonna go to jail for, oh, end quote, sorry, although he was only gonna go to jail for up to nine years, that would have been nine years that Becky would have had to like reflect and possibly got her children up out of the house and left Ronald. You see what I'm saying? Like, there would have been a way up out of here. Now, this is just a few theories that I have, um, or not that I have, that have been thrown out as to why he decided he was just gonna go on this killing street. Theory number one: he was absolutely infatuated with his daughter, Sheila. And of course, Sheila went ahead, got married. She had um another child by her husband. Um, and so it's just theorized that he couldn't take that. Um just something kind of snapped in him with the fact that he lost his Sheila. Um, and so that could have been one reason. The other reason is that he caught wind of the fact that Becky was getting ready to leave him. And I don't think he necessarily cared about Becky leaving as much as he cared about losing the power that he had, that control that he had over his family, he was getting ready to lose that with Becky leaving. Or he kind of felt like the fact that Becky even had the idea to leave, he had already lost the power, and so he just wanted to kill everybody because what else would he have done? That was his ultimate power, was the fact that I could just kill all of you. Um, and so with the Sheila situation, with the Becky situation, um, he went on this madman free, and I believe that's where his quote came from, where he says, I've gotten everybody who wanted to hurt me. He felt like he was the victim in the fact that he was what he lost Sheila and in the fact that Becky wanted to leave him. He really thought that he was somehow the victim in this. Like everybody wants to leave me. People are hurting my feelings. And so I should now be able to take out everybody who's trying to hurt me, because why would I be hurt? What have I done wrong to people? And so those are the theories that I've seen thrown out there, and honestly, they all make sense because what other what other thing is there? So honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if during the evaluations, if they could if they continue to evaluate him, which it looks like they were just like, no, he's fine, and they went ahead and executed him. But if they were to do any evaluations now, they probably would have just diagnosed him with um uh narcissistic uh personality, is is pretty much all that that is here. Uh so, anyways, that is the case of Ronald Jean Simmons. Um, I do believe he is one of the most prolific family annihilators because of the amount of family members that he killed. I believe the 14 family members is the greatest number of family members killed at one given point in time. So that sucks for the Simmons family to lose so many people um over the course of two days. So I pray for I pray for their family. Their whole line was just tossed out because somebody, because somebody was obsessed with their daughter, like ew. You're fucking disgusting, bro. You deserve to die. I hope the devil sits on you. Um, but like I said, that's the case of Ronald Jean Simmons, and I hope I satisfied you enough to where you will join me for episode four. Stay safe. Bye.